Becoming an Ethical Whore-ist in Bangkok
Yes there is such a thing as ethical whoring, while this guide focuses on Bangkok you can take the main principles and apply them to almost any city in the world.
So children, let us begin.
What is ethical whoring?
Ethical whoring is much like a Bitcoin transaction, there are no middlemen involved and both parties have agreed to the transaction without the input of others.
Transactions are untraceable and there is no institution taking a % of the deal.
In a nutshell, you’re paying for sex and your chosen girl has full choice on whether she wants to sleep with your or not, and does not answer to a pimp or mamasan.
Luckily in a place like Bangkok, ethical whoring is quite easy when you know where to go or what to look for.
Is ethical whoring a real thing or did you just make this shit up?
Not all prostitution is bad or as you see in the media.
Most of these girls in Asia are just tryna get per-per-paaaid.
Good business girls make over 60,000b per month and the best ones can make as much as 250-400k per month.
Some can work in ‘normal’ jobs and make next to nothing but they prefer to do this because they want to get lucrative.
However, there are also girls who are forced into doing this, and it’s these girls that the ethical whore monger tries to avoid.
This is why I’ve created a whoring standard my readers can adhere to and follow.
Freelancers on the street and clubs
As in any industry, freelancers usually work for themselves and can be found on the street or in several of Bangkok’s nightclubs.
If you’ve visited places like Climax or Insanity you may have even been rejected by working girls, because they have the chose with who they go with.
Nightclubs are great hunting spots because girls come here after work on their own accord and have the power to say no.
However, there are times when a mamasan will bring her girls to such clubs:
You’ll usually know if the girl has a boss because when you discuss price she will pass the information on to the mamasan who makes the final choice, you’ll see a lot of ear whispering and the mamasan may even talk to you directly.
This is when you need to walk away.
If you can read situations you’ll also be able to notice who the mamasan is in their group, she is usually the oldest one, isn’t drinking and happens to be fat more often than not… and yes may be able to sleep with her too.
Black-tip: black working girls in Bangkok all have pimps.
Thermae Bar Bangkok
Thermae bar is a 100% freelance only bar located on Sukhumvit 15.
Working girls can come and go as they please and choose who they go home with. There are no mamasans in Thermae and it’s not uncommon to get rejected by several girls before someone says yes.
All of the below images are taken Wolveisreal Instagram account.
Thermae bar caters mostly to Asian guys with the ratio being 98% Japanese, Korean, Singaporean and 2% white people at any one time.
The girls here can range from okay to quite hot and the average price tends to be around 2,500b.
A 5 star spot for ethical whoring in Bangkok in my opinion, even if Google reviews say it’s only 3.8:
Go go bars
Ethical whoring isn’t always black and white.
A go go bar has a number of Thai bar girls working who you can barfine and sleep with.
You simply choose the girl, pay the barfine and leave with her.
This means if a girl doesn’t like you, if you pay the barfine you can take her home.
Granted if you do this you’ll most likely have a bad experience and terrible time, but nevertheless you can still take her home.
I’ve seen it a few times when it was quite obvious the girl did not want to leave with a customer but had no choice because of the mamasan.
That’s not to say you can’t perform ethical whoring practices in go go bars, you can and many do. Instead of barfining a girl right away you should buy her a drink and get to know her a little more.
You’ll know within 15 minutes or so if she really likes you or not, if you’re still unsure you could just go ahead and ask:
“Do you like me, would you be okay if I barfined you?”
Don’t be shy, they’ve heard it a 100 times.
Massage shops
There are three types of massage shops, they are:
Pull you in off the street – if you walk around the Nana and Soi Cowboy area after 8pm there are dozens of sex and hand job massages where girls are trying to get you into their shop.
In most cases I find that if a woman really likes you she will grab or talk to you, if she doesn’t she will stay on her chair.
While you do have the ability to choose any of the girls working there, to meet the A Farang Abroad’s ethical whoring guidelines, I recommend that you first ask for a drink before making your choice.
As you sip on your drink, the girls who like you will show signs of interests and the girls who don’t will stay outside or leave the room. From here you can make an educated decision using your brain and penis.
Soapy massages and nuru massages – work by you choosing the girl from a list or fish bowl. The girl cannot reject you (usually).
While I don’t think this is unethical whoring as the women know and have agreed to this before hand, you really don’t have enough history on the shop or girl to know if she is working there out of choice or not.
The good thing is that some of these shops allow you to drink a beer and even talk to the girls. In fish bowl situations girls that do like you will keep giving you smiles which is a good sign.
Blow job bars – are harder to practice ethical whoring because you simply pick the girl you like the most and she does not have the ability to say no. Again she knows this before hand and still decide to work there.
Grey area.
What makes a good ethical whore-ist in Bangkok?
A good ethical whore monger in Bangkok:
Always uses a condom – This means by default around 80% of my readers are not ethical in their whoring practices. I know so many people who will not wrap up unless asked, like a hell of a lot.
Be safe kids.
They don’t drink too much – the biggest obstacle to knowing whether a bar girl really likes you or not is alcohol. When you drink too much, the moral compass goes out the window most of us follow our penis.
When drunk you’re not able to read body language or see the mamasan who is standing 1 foot away.
They pay the price – they don’t haggle or short-change the girl. If the price agreed is 2,000b they pay 2,000b. They also don’t get what they believe to be working girls from a club and don’t pay them unless they ask (known as shoring).
They don’t pick right away – instead they throw out feelers to see if a girl likes them. Before paying for any sexual service they spend at least 5min or more talking to them.
They check their ID – if they are unsure of a girl’s age they will ask to see their ID. If the girl refuses then they don’t take that girl back to their room.
While you can get just about every type of fake document in Thailand from Koh San Road, nobody sells fake Thai ID copies. If a girl’s ID card says she is over 18, it’s most likely a real one.
Are you an ethical whore monger?
What mongering practices do you implement in Bangkok? Would love to know which places you think are the best or what other tips readers should take to become an ethical whoremonger in Bangkok.
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Great article! I like to think of myself as a Gentleman Whore-ist! There are some amazing ladies that freelance as they need the money and if you are nice to them they will be nice to you. You mentioned Climax and Insanity which are great fun but start later. Thermae is the strangest place on earth but the choice of girls is vas, though a lot do prefer Asians. I hear that the Beer Garden is better now and of course there are the freelances on the street. Where can you find slighter higher level Freelancers? Oskar’s, Above Eleven on ladies nights/ Any other suggestions?
Keep up the good work!
Mixx or Ce La Vi in Silom are good choices. I guess you could also go to G clubs but many girls don’t have a price so may not be that ideal.
Using no condom is unethical if the girl says to use one and said monger refuses. Some girls prefer no condom. Soi 6 girls by night time have had alot of sex. Condoms can hurt so if you take them overnight they NEVER want condom.
That is true that some girls don’t like a condom but many aren’t clued up enough on the risks of doing so. I always advise everyone to use a condom when paying for sex.
If a working girl doesn’t want to use a condom how many other customers has she done that with? Not something anybody should risk.
“If a working girl doesn’t want to use a condom how many other customers has she done that with?”
I only bang the young ones so shes had no condom sex with less people then me most likely!
Come on y’all, keep it real! If you are in Thailand, having sex with a P4P chic, a condom for vaginal and/or anal sex is a MUST!?!?!! The ramifications of not doing that are unthinkable…..and the unthinkable WILL eventually catch up to you if you are unprotected. Good luck & be safe!
true. good job.
lol young ones are the most in demand and thus do more sex. you thought you were the only one thinking like that? the most important is not how many she had in her life , but how many she gad that week. say, before cthe symptôms let themselves know.
Remember 1% people in Thailand has AIDS. And most of them work in sex.
They control girls in clubs, but there is no control with freelancers.
Lol no they don’t you dolt. Around one percent of the population is estimated to have HIV which is not yet AIDS. At least know the difference if you’re gonna talk shit.
1% my ass who told you that BS
So you are a asshole because you risk the life of that young woman. Not only your own…
Normturner,
THAT is exactly the “logic” that keeps spreading HIV/AIDS in Africa.
Someone invented the saying the if an infected man has I/C with a virgin, than his infection will get healed.
So they even rape them, and the former virgin gets infected because of the bleeding.
Or am I not spotting sarcasm in your posting?
Great blog post. I never considered the concept of Ethical Whoring. Food for thought. But I always knew human trafficking is wrong and so is Shoring. I would never want to sleep with a woman against her will. But like you pointed out, 95% of women in Thailand arent being trafficked or forced into selling their tight little snappers. They do it for the easy money. As for Shoring, that is plain wrong. If you pick up a freelancer at a nightclub like Climax or Mixx and she goes back to your room, she obviously isn’t doing it for free so she should receive money for her time. Once a price is agreed on, then she should be paid. Guys who do Shoring ruin it for the rest of us cos now many Mamasan’s at GoGo’s want you to pay them the girl’s fee upfront to make sure this won’t happen. But downside to paying first, is girl is less inclined to put on good performance. They also still expect an extra tip too.
Good advice there GSM.
I second your points GSM!
At least at the time you wrote it, the unemployment rate of Thais was less than 5 %.
By far, most woman who wanted to work not in the AE industry was free to do so!
(Some were forced by relatives, or by claiming to have debts to do so. Or because they want to get to know a rich falang.)
I am in a quandary: ethical whoring, or gentleman whoring, or something else? Here are my standards:
1. Check age. Double check age. I prefer older and I still check IDs. I do NOT want virgins!
2. Wear a FUCKING (redundant) condom! I love hearing when she say “No need for condom.” and I reply “ Yes….to protect you and me.” She will be more affectionate after that, IMHO.
3. If there is ANY hesitancy on her part, walk away. I want a consensual partner; there are many fish in the sea….cast for those who want to be caught. Sometime I try “Catch and Release”…ask for one who is obviously very distracted and uncomfortable….pay her bar fine, and release her into the wild….maybe after a little talk and discussion.
4. Be kind to rookies. I once had a rookie gag and throw up during a blow job. I really had no idea she was THAT new, but it made sense. I do not want hard core veterans, so I better be prepared for the absolute novice. I was compassionate and not angry. It was one more story to tell, NOT in anger.
Do you think I am a dolt? haha I welcome any and all responses.
Perfect advice Steve, if only everyone could follow this!
Is Thermae open over Songkran this year? Seems like if its open there won’t be as many girls
It should be open, and yes there will not be as many girls but that’s for everyplace.
I have heard about availability of Russian free lancers as well. Most of them hang around Rajah hotel. Is that true incase if u have experienced it?. Also if you have then do tell me that are they cheaper then a thai free lancer? … Thank you
Russian hookers are not cheaper than Thai hookers in Bangkok, they are 3-4 more expensive. I think they are from Ukraine and not Russia, they are also more likely to scam you.
The big element in this as you said is consensus and that the girl is clear in her own mind that she is OK to go with you. Anywhere there is an element of coercion is dubious in terms of the ethics.
I do the same as you suggest – I always find a girl who is making an effort to get me to pick her and then chat with her a bit to check she is relaxed and we are clear on the price. This approach has usually worked well for me with good experiences and a good price. I think a lot of guys have a bad and expensive experience because they don’t take ethical whoring into consideration.