Bangkok Freelancer Guide for Dummies
This is an education piece about Bangkok Freelancers for dummies.
What is a Bangkok freelancer?
A Bangkok freelancer is another term for a freelance escort or Thai street hooker. Unlike Thai bar girls, girls in massages they do not work for anyone.
They are independent and choose their own clients. This means they can say NO to you.
The truest form of capitalism.
There are two types of Bangkok freelancers, they are:
Full-time – these are girls who make their entire income from freelancing in Bangkok.
Entrepreneur – a girl who has a regular job and needs to make a little extra money for whatever reason (pay rent, buy something, etc).
These girls may do it once a week, a few times per year or a single time only.
Why do girls freelance?
There’s not enough well paying job they can do or are qualified to do in Thailand.
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Where to find Bangkok freelancers
People who have never been to Thailand assume that these types of services are everywhere.
When I tell people I’ve lived in Thailand for 7 years, their eyes go wide and they start asking questions they think are funny like how many ladyboys I’ve had sex with (answer is 3.5) and how many happy endings I’ve had (lost count).
These types of services are not everywhere.
If you added all the streets in Bangkok up, you will find freelancers in less than 0.1% of them.
Freelancers in Bangkok are limited to a few areas, specifically tourist areas. You’ll find very few freelancers near the backpacker areas like Koh San Road because backpackers are cheap.
If you’re looking for a Thai Bangkok freelancer, you’ll find them in the area I’ve marked in red after sun down for western tourists.
That feel when Therame is showing on your Google Maps
If you’ve never been to Bangkok the area I have marked is Asoke and Nana. It’s the place you’re most least likely to get a metered taxi.
Asoke and Nana are safe areas to visit in Bangkok. Apart from a few bad taxi drivers who are trying to make 500b from you, you should not experience any trouble if you use common sense.
You’ll meet Bangkok freelancers in the following venues in these areas:
On the street – if you see a Thai girl standing alone wearing going out clothes, she’s either waiting for a friend or she’s a freelancer.
There’s quite a few bus stops in the area above, so don’t go up to a women waiting by a bus stop asking for rates.
Bangkok Freelancers give a lot of eye contact and stare at you. As you make your way into Nana there will be ladyboy freelancers too.
If you like someone you can go up and talk to them.
Yes everyone can see you talk to them, and yes most people will judge you. But do you care?
Bars – are littered along Asoke and Nana. You can meet freelancers in them, they’ll usually be drinking a bottled beer on their own, or be in a small group drinking beers or Bacardi Breezers.
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You’ll also meet normal Thai girls in these bars with their friends, although rare. In 2012 there were quite a few normal Thai girls going there to have a drink, in 2018 that doesn’t seems to be the case as much.
You can tell the difference from their clothing, freelancers are much more revelling. And give lots of eye contact.
Related: How to spot Thai bar girls.
By bars I mean bars like you have in the UK or US, not go go bars. Go go bars do not have freelancers, they work for the bar.
Clubs – you can meet Bangkok freelancers in pretty much every night club in Asoke in Nana. The clubs don’t get busy until until midnight- 2am.
There are lots of nightclubs in Bangkok that aren’t visited by freelancers and are full of locals, but you won’t find them in Asoke or Nana.
At 2 am when the go go bars close, girls who haven’t been picked that night MAY go visit a night club.
As they are not working in the bar no more, they are freelancing.
However, some go go girls with with a mamasan (pimp) and they take a cut.
Here’s an example of this happening:
The women in the red jacket is the mamasan.
She was wearing clothes you’d wear when watching Netflix, while the other two were dressed up nicely. She was also telling them who to speak to.
What are the going rates for a freelancer in Bangkok?
Anywhere from 1,500b to 10,000b+.
Recent quotes I received:
8,000b by an South American freelancer, hot.
A ladyboy told me it was 16,000b, and I could see why, she was by far the hottest person in the club.
Typically the range is 1,500-5,000b, based on looks and age, you’ll very rarely be quoted above that amount.
You can negotiate but it’s a fine art to negotiate without looking like a cheap skate. If you do come off as a cheap skate the experience isn’t worth having in my opinion.
Is it safe to go with a freelancer in Thailand?
I never thought I’d be writing the following sentence, but I think Thai freelancers are by far the friendliest and nicest nationality of freelancers I’ve met.
If you’re the type of person who gets black out drunk and makes lots of bad decisions then for sure you’ll attract the Bangkok freelancers who will rob or scam you.
But if you’re someone who can handle themselves drinking, is polite and has common sense, you’re not going to get scammed or tricked.
If you’re a nice person, they’ll be more than nice back. If you’re a piece of shit, then they’ll mirror you.
Thai freelancers are safe in the sense that you should not worry about being robbed if you follow the advice above.
Most are sweet as a button, but if any are rushing you, being forceful, aggressive or something seems off, walk away.
Are they clean and free from STDs? I’m sure people in the comments will quote statistics of how unlikely it is to catch anything, but I’m not going to tell you it’s safe.
I found nothing exciting in life is ever safe.
Why choose a freelancer over a go-go girl?
The benefits of going with a freelancer is that she gets all the silver.
When I go Asoke or Nana and pop into a bar (not a go go bar), sometimes me and my friends will sit and have a chat with a freelancer, get them a beer then move on.
They are friendly and some have good banter.
A girl in a go go isn’t always so nice, maybe it’s the loud music, maybe they don’t like to dance or they see everyone as a mark, but you’re more likely to get a girl with bad attitude.
The downside to Bangkok freelancers is if you’re the type of guy who gets black out drunk, when she takes your money and phone you’ll have nowhere to go back and complain.
My one pro-tip when visiting these areas is to give a Bangkok freelancer 2,500b and tell her to take the day off. You’ll feel great!
Freelancing is the only ethical kind of whoring.
I guess massages are ok too, and if she offers, then you can accept.
Bar girls and soapiesk, no real choice for the girls. They do have some I guess in bars, but it’s not optimal. I am not being wholier than thou, cause I have been to many soapies. I particularly liked that soapie in Ratchada with all the northern girls, what was the name? It was shut down by cops I read.
Anyway, freelancing is ok and ethical in my book. It also usually requires a little more human interaction to establish trust, which makes the whole thing more pleasurable for both (I hope).
Agree with most of that. Girls in bars don’t have a choice, or very limited say.
Climax Club at Soi 11 use to be my favorite club since it’s closing haven’t found anything close to it. Any recommendations?
You left out the more upper end places like Spasso at the Grand Hyatt which has been a sure thing for even longer than you’ve been in Bangkok.
Thanks for that Richard. Any tips or advice for people who want to check them areas out?
Have been a regular At Spasso for a while now. Its a great place but the ladies seem to overcharge and aren’t even that great looking.
But one trip for me is mandatory there whenever I am in Bkk.
I have said this before. And I am not a misogynic asshole. Many thaigirls dont have a problem using sex and relationships to get leverage. What do you call a girl who after 3-4 dates starts to ask for “a loan” or presents? Or never ever talk about mony but clearly has a long term goal that will benefite her financially.
Of course Thaigirl can fall in love and have sincere feelings – but only if material criterias are fullfilled.
On Thaifriendly, Tinder there are hardcore hookers, parttime freelancers, and normal girls – who sometimes also wants a small contribution.
All women want to be secure and they look at their current relationship as their final one, especially in Thailand hence they look for material material.
There is also the long game without marrige and it can vary in time. And quite a few of the girls on social media have a semi-long perspective. More often looking for a sponssor than a relationship
And the 7-eleven girl who want 500-1000 baht for taxi after your date. Isent she a freelancer as well?
I’d say you’re meeting the wrong girls or giving off the giving off the wrong message. I know plenty of friends that date these types of girls and are happy with paying (they know the score before hand), but I know just as many if not more who have girlfriends who work full time, and seldom ask for money.
Quite a few freelancers frequent the limited drinking establishments at or around On Nut BTS, especially in the early evenings before they head to Nana for serious fishing. Get ’em while they’re fresh…
On-Nut Market used to be a good place for cheap food and drink. When I go someone in my group would always get approached and given a number.
I’m a walker. No, not a zombie from The Walking Dead; I generally prefer to walk rather than drive, taxi, moto, BTS, Grab, whatever. If it’s less than 5km and it’s not raining than I walk. I stay around Phrom Phong when i’m in Bangkok so that means most days I am walking either up to Thonglor/Ekamai or down to Asoke/Ploen Chit, or any multiple combination of thereof throughout the day. This takes me past most of the prime farang FL street hangouts, and yes I often end up in some of the FL bar/club venues too of an evening as well. I don’t claim to know or be mates with even 1% of the FL’s I see every day but I do recognise them and they recognise me and off the top of my head I can only think of about half a dozen that I would say are proper nutjobs or to be avoided at all costs.
Harvie said above “If you’re a nice person, they’ll be more than nice back. If you’re a piece of shit, then they’ll mirror you.”
This is spot on. It seems almost common sense and logical doesn’t it? It’s nice to be nice. (drink on me if you can name the Bangkok bar that has that saying on a sign inside) If you think that though then unfortunately you’re not taking into account the sheer, way out of normal kilter amount of badly damaged, problematic, disturbed, basically wrong’un farangs/tourists that inhabit the FL active areas if Bangkok. It’s these guys that can cause the problems and thus effect the attitudes and behaviours of the FL’s they deal/interact with.
Overall: If a situation or FL feels wrong it/she/him probably is wrong. Walk away. Politely.
Great post.
Hi Nate,
I normally stay in Sukhumvit and walk up to Phrom Phong.
Was wondering hows Thonglor ? Will extend my walk or atleast wal one way.
Thanks…
“Entrepreneur – a girl who has a regular job and needs to make a little extra money for whatever reason (pay rent, buy something, etc.”
@Harvey- I thought non-pro part-time freelancers with regular jobs or who are students are usually called, “Sideliners”? …
They may have more than one meaning, but sideline was the term used for girls that were sitting at the side of soapies (i.e not in the fish bowl).
Actually they usually call all part-time Thai Free Lancers “Dek Sideliner Girls” whether they work in a soapie, massage parlor, bar, or on the street. This Dek Sideline girl probably doesn’t have enough money to cover the costs of living and school so hence, she needs to do something on the side that covers her costs. That just so happens to be selling her tight little snapper on weekends or after class. These Sideliners are usually more sought after and command a higher price since they tend to be younger and hotter and less used and abused than full-time Freelancers and pros.
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Mixx night club.
Is Bangkok better than Pattaya? I see it is more expensive, but can you find normal girls easy? Do you feel better,happier in Bangkok or Pattaya?
Better for what? Girls are cheaper and more plentiful in Pattaya, but I feel more happier in Bangkok.
Thanks .I’ve been to Pattaya last year over a month,and i had a great great time.this time i come to Bangkok,and will be more focused on finding girls who are not freelancers but i will buy them or give them some money anyway.it just feels more emotional and adventurous for me. I heard that Thai Cupid is best in finding those girls,but i will walk around and meet them on street and malls as well.how does that goes in Bangkok,are those normal girls approachable?
I would focus on staying in Bangkok and use both online dating and if you can, go out and talk to girls, they are everywhere.
I will be be staying at the continent hotel on sukhumvit. Will I be able to meet nice freelancers in the area ?
Yes.
What is expected with the freelancers when you agree a fee with them? Is it a night out, paying for drinks, treat them to something, etc or just straight sex? And is it just for the one night or can you agree for a couple of days if you really like them/want company if you’re travelling solo?
You discuss that with them first. You’re expected to pay for everything as a rule.
I once met a woman who had a daily job in a massage parlor, she was working on commission, not renting her space from the store. Was expected to work daily bringing customers in off the street. She was sooo tired, she convinced to come in for a massage, I ended up paying for 2 hours and we just lay down on the mat and napped. I came back the next day, we did the same. For the weekend, I negotiated with her boss to buy her out of work for 72 hours and we went away on a little holiday, just ordered room service and slept. It was nice, but she was clearly more troubled than would allow her to share what was going on. Probably married with kids.
I’ve been to Bangkok five times and always stay on Soi 11, right in the middle of the freelancer activity. Soi 11 is also close to Nana Plaza, and I always spend a few nights there, usually in Spanky’s. There are many freelancers who are quite overt in their appearance and easy to identify. Tight, low cut black or red dresses are common. As stated, they also make a great deal of almost “predatory” eye contact. Sometimes they will call out to you. And then, we have the other type, who are usually sitting alone at a bar or restaurant, appear oblivious to your presence and look like a college girl out for the evening. They can also be found sitting in the McDonalds on Sukhumvit. These girls are younger, fresher and more attractive that the garden variety hooker…so, more desirable. If you’re not sure, you can buy them a drink or just walk up to them and ask if you can get a massage. I’ve been told that at least 90% of these younger, less obvious gals are, in fact, hookers. You should not have to pay anymore than 2,500 THB.
Hi,
Heading to Bangkok after 3 years. Any idea what the current situation with the ladies is ie with covid and all…
Are they as easy to pick?
Thanks